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277 – Chasewater Railway Museum Bits & Pieces From Chasewater News – Autumn 2004 Part 4 – Behind the Scenes, MR Crane, Narrow Gauge
98 – Chasewater Railway Museum Bits & Pieces Summer 1983
Editorial – Chasewater in Crisis
On behalf of the Society I must apologise for the long gap between this and the last magazine due to a long list of reasons. There has just not been either the time or the money to expend on such a publication.
At present our membership wavers around the 100 mark, of which around 10% manage to visit regularly. It seems unfortunate that each week we rely on the same members attending to the Railway’s needs, without the active support of the other 90%. It is little wonder that the veterans are fast becoming despondent with the work load being foisted on them.
Unless there is a significant change in the attitude of our membership, one of two things will happen: either the Railway stock will have to be drastically pruned to the minimum required to run a service, or we shut the doors and sell the lot.
I beg more of you to attend, if only on an occasional basis. It always seems strange to me how many of you can attend the AGM and that’s the last we see of you for twelve months.
Tony Sale – Assistant General Manager.
Asbestos – This engine has now been in the process of restoration for about five years, due mainly to shortage of manpower. The frames and wheels have been re-assembled, the boiler tubed and the tank and cab are being repainted. Now we have to complete the boiler repairs and drop it into the frames and one day we may have a working engine.
Invicta – This engine is now in store pending the fitting of vacuum brake gear and the overhaul of the main bearing brasses. Work is hoped to commence on completion of Asbestos.Sentinel taking water at our old HQ
Sentinel – The boiler was split to reveal the inner firebox for the boiler inspector but work has now been shelved in order to concentrate work on Asbestos.Ruston & Hornsby DL7 entering the old Brownhills West Station
DL7 – The mainstay of our shunting force has performed reasonably well over the last two years and it holds the distinction of being our only regularly working engine. This diesel locomotive is subject to an appeal to maintain its presence at Chasewater, which you may or may not like to subscribe to.
S100 – If I didn’t have to assist running the Railway I might find more time to devote to this rather large jigsaw puzzle, but despite all, progress is still being made, weather permitting, you would be amazed how much one person can achieve by himself, so if someone would like to assist, twice as much could be accomplished.
All other locomotives are stored unserviceable for the foreseeable future, including the Neilson, which requires new tubes. It can only be hoped that decay can be kept to a minimum to ensure resurrection in years to come.
Carriages and Wagons
Here I hoped to bring glad tidings, but unfortunately the only news is that the MSLR carriage is still in the shed and has been largely untouched due to the fact that there are no carpenters in our midst. The only other news is that a few more doors have dropped off the Maryport & Carlisle coach and the rest are generally suffering from many years of neglect.
Another late snippet is that someone wants to buy the TPO. Your Committee is in favour and I myself fully support them, but the choice is yours, so make it known fast, it will be no good grumbling after it has left.
As many of you know, much of the money needed to support the Railway is generated in the form of sales of soft drinks and chocolates. Recently the Wickham DMU was acquired in order to branch out further into the prepared food department, all we need is one interested member prepared to buy, prepare and sell. If anyone would come to volunteer we would be only too happy to assist in any way, as well as supplying a warehouse card which could also be used for their own benefit.
The new loco shed has certainly proved to be one of the most important developments at Chasewater. Not only does it supply ideal conditions for thorough restoration, it also allows work to continue after dark. Although this building has been with us for over a year there are still improvements to be made, i.e. fitting of three phase electric cables within the building and also fitting of a compressed air circuit. Once the former has been completed, all our machinery can be powered and the shed can be said to be fully operational.Taken from DL7, approaching the loco shed from the same direction as we do now – obviously before the changes!
T ask Force Notes
A new task force was supplied together with finance and a new Manager, to commence work on the track layout. After last season the Railway lost its powers of running the line until such times as the whole of the permanent way was relaid in order to comply with the Railway Inspectorate’s standards.
In short, the platform front has been demolished to supply the necessary clearance, (rebuilding is now underway) and a run round loop is being built in the vicinity of the compound. Next the line will be lifted and replaced with better quality materials down to the old exchange sidings where another run round loop will be constructed. Upon completion a further visit by the Railway Inspectorate will then be made, and hopefully we shall run again. I can only say that I hope all goes well for the Task Force and both luck and weather is on their sides.
On behalf of the Company I have been asked by our Chairman to include the following appeal.
Save DL7 for Chasewater
The Company needs money to service a large overdraft and whilst the Railway is not running, little money is being repaid and understandably the Bank Manager is a little distressed.
If you would like to give some money to this appeal, you will be helping DL7 because if the Company is declared bankrupt, DL7 will certainly be seized as an asset. If the engine belongs to the membership it is safe along with the rest of the Society’s collection from the grips of the Liquidators
If you cannot afford a share, buy one together with some friends – you may buy as many as you like.
Shares are available in multiples of £10.00.
Chasewater Railway Museum Bits & Pieces 44 Aug. 1968
Latest Arrivals at Chasewater
People living in the houses adjacent to the line have by now become used to seeing various types of low-loaders arriving with miscellaneous items of rolling stock, in fact on one memorable day two vehicles arrived at the same time. One often wonders what the thoughts of these people are as more and more large relics appear at Chasewater.
Several items have arrived over the last two months. The first and in many ways the most important was the Midland Railway crane from Hednesford. Without this, our track laying project could not have been fulfilled and over the last eight weeks it has more than made up for its three years of inactivity at Hednesford. Apart from being a valuable historic item, it is a most useful piece of equipment.
SECR Brake No.1601
This six-wheeled van, built in 1905, is unusual in that it has both a “birdcage” lookout on the roof and side duckets for the guard. In addition to accommodation for the guard, the rest of the space was used for luggage. On withdrawal it was transferred for service use as an ARP Cleansing Van, based at Bricklayers Arms Locomotive Depot in London.
With no further use for it after the war, in 1947 it was sold to the independent Derwent Valley Light Railway in Yorkshire. On its second withdrawal from service it was bought by the Southern Locomotive Preservation Co., who moved it, with the rest of their stock, to the Bluebell in late 1971 and early 1972.
The van’s eventual restoration will require, as its first stage, the complete reconstruction of its wooden/flitch-plated underframe.
It was at Chasewater for five years before being transferred to the Bluebell Railway. It had to be left outside for the haulage company to make an early start, and in those few hours every window was smashed. ( I know there aren’t many but…..)
This was most eventful since it arrived a day early. The usual entrance was locked and the haulage contractors came through the main entrance. This involved a considerable amount of shunting on their part and eventually necessitated the complete removal of the main gates. After becoming entangled with overhead power cables the vehicle was finally unloaded without a hitch! The carriage is in the nature of a joint venture between the Society and our good friends the Southern Locomotive Preservation Company, the latter having purchased the coach while the RPS provided the bulk of the money needed for transportation.
The next arrival, on June 15th, was the Hawthorn Leslie 0-4-0ST ‘Asbestos’ from Turners Asbestos Cement, Trafford Park, Manchester. In contrast to the previous item, this arrived about five hours late and completely disrupted work for the day. However, the sight of this immaculately maintained locomotive more than made up for any inconvenience.Pic: DM Bathurst
This was followed one week later by our most distant acquisition, the Neilson 0-4-0ST from Glasgow, vandalised the day before collection, as posted elsewhere.
Before the next influx of new items, more track will have to be laid into the compound. As soon as this is done, the peace of the neighbourhood will once again be shattered by the noise of heavy haulage vehicles.
From the other reports 1968 Vol.1 No.3. 42.2
From the Hon. Secretary’s Report
The work on the Andrew Barclay loco (Colin McAndrew) at Hixon is almost finished.
Trevor Cousens and Allen Civil visited Stewarts and Lloyds at Bromford Bridge to buy loco spares to replace parts on the Hudswell Clarke and the Barclay locomotives.
Early in March 1968 some track was stolen from Chasewater. It has since been replaced and measures are in hand to prevent any further occurrence. A security compound will be constructed in the very near future to house the stock there.
Restoration Work at Hednesford.
Slow progress has been made on the MR Royal Saloon, the clerestory roof has had pitch applied. The damp has caused the roof inside to crack up. We understand that work is now in hand to the two side panels which need attention. The outside is now being given a coat of undercoat.
The LNWR TPO needs a good coat of red oxide, some of the woodwork needs replacing. The roof has had some attention and is more waterproof.
The TPO needs a good sort out inside, with new relics arriving all the time, we are getting very short of room in this vehicle. A great number of relics have to be stored because there is not enough space to display them.
The Maryport & Carlisle 3rd Class carriage is almost completed, the wheels need finishing with a white rim. The underframes require another two coats of paint. One door has been made complete by Frank Harvey and another door by Laurence Hodgkinson – this needs to be hung.
The Midland Railway Crane at Chasewater 1969
The Midland Railway horse drawn delivery van requires another coat of paint and the roof needs re-canvassing. Two of the wheels need repairing. (I knew that we had this van, but I’ve never seen it and have no idea where it came from – there has been nothing in the magazines so far. It is now on loan at Shugborough)
Robert A. Ives.
The Chasewater Report
At last we have permission to start the compound, I hope work will commence within the next month as so much depends on getting this site ready for steaming of locomotives this summer. I think it is most important that we make an effort to attract the general public.
New arrivals this summer (all being well) will be a bolster wagon from Holly Bank and the Midland Railway crane from the Hednesford depot. We hope during May, the Neilson from Glasgow and a Hawthorn Leslie from Manchester will have arrived, and there is also a likelihood of two salt wagons from Sandbach, Cheshire; and providing suitable transport can be found at a reasonable cost, the Manchester, Sheffield and Lincoln coach and the South Eastern and Chatham Railway brake from the Derwent valley should also be here by the late summer. (There was an appeal for £400 for the transport costs later in the magazine.)MSL Coach in the Heritage Centre 2010
Track clearing is still making steady progress, although there have been one or two setbacks, e.g. the extensive re-packing of the point at the south end of the passing loop, due to the continual burning of the bank; the work has now been successful. The latest bit of vandalism as you no doubt have read was the removal of three lengths of track from the north end of the line by people of low moral character (I would have expressed it somewhat differently! Starts with a ‘b’ and ends with an ‘s’!), resulting in the derailment of the tool van and the flat wagon. This has now been completely relaid.
During the next two months a total of 1053 feet of track has to be lifted and relaid on the compound site, as you will no doubt gather this will require a great deal of hard work by the Chasewater working party to meet the deadline, and we would appreciate very much the appearance of members whom we have not seen so far.
The Chasewater Working Party 1968
Due to the rapid expansion of the relics at both Hednesford and Chasewater, I think the need arises in the centralisation of work at these two depots. There is a strong case for forming various departments i.e. loco footplate crews, signalling department fitters and permanent way staff. If anyone has any ideas on the above departments, please let Frank Harvey or myself know.
This article was written as an appreciation of the work done at Chasewater and Hixon towards getting the Chasewater site and loco ready for steaming later this year (1968).
But it also asked for more work to be done at Hednesford, as the state of the Travelling Post Office and the Royal Saloon was giving rise to some concern. Mr. Siberry was asking for a weekend in May to concentrate on painting these two items.
There are still more articles to come from this edition – about the Hudswell Clarke, the Neilson and the Chasewater Line – not to mention the stock-list!
Taken from the ‘Mercian’ Jan, 1964 3.1
We enter yet another year – and enthusiasm still seems to be very strong. You will see from Frank Harvey’s report that we have not done too badly during 1963. Let’s hope that we have an even better year this year.
There are a number of exhibitions and open days planned for this year, but to help them go really well we are relying on our own members’ support – so please come along if you can. The cold weather is not, we know, the best for depot work, but work has gone on all the same with a faithful few.
We were all rather concerned to find vandalism striking the depot; we only hope it will not occur again, because our funds are limited to make damage of this sort good. You will notice that the committee has decided to change this newsletter to quarterly to alternate with the Forum, mainly being due to insufficient copy for a bi-monthly and to help keep costs down.
Hednesford Progress Report
Work has still been maintained during the winter, a few members have gone into hibernation but we hope to see them as the sun starts to warm up and the days draw out.
The Midland Royal Saloon has now arrived at the Hednesford Siding, and certain work has already been done on this vehicle, the ladies have been along with polish and given the saloon a much needed clean and polish. Mike Lewis has removed and serviced all the carriage door locks, and of course replaced same; the whole of the vehicle is now burglar proof. The Depot Master, John Elsley has fixed up the lighting in the saloon, the batteries are now being charged every weekend. John has also designed a very useful mobile generator, it is hoped to run this set very shortly. The set will provide power both for battery charging and welding, etc.
The LBSC E1 loco has arrived (No.9 Cannock Wood to the uninitiated), this loco requires a lot of cleaning down etc., before painting – may we again appeal to all members who are interested in this work. The depot is open every Sunday afternoon, Please Help! put this loco into a respectable condition before Open Weekend at Easter.
Our Treasurer Frank Harvey still continues to work on the Maryport & Carlisle door which he has built up from scratch – well done Frank! Perhaps members will note that there are still three more doors yet to be made, Frank would welcome some help from anyone who has first class woodwork experience.
D. A. Ives Hon. Sec.
Taken from the Treasurer’s Report
I am taking the liberty of turning the latter part of this report into an appeal. An appeal on behalf of the ex-LBSCR Stroudley E1 loco 0-6-0 tank. As some members may know, this locomotive, the sole survivor of its type, was withdrawn from service by its owners, the National Coal Board, some months ago. They have very kindly loaned it to us for one year giving us the option to purchase it at the end of that time.
The sum required is £300. This is most reasonable as a locomotive of similar size off British Railways would cost in the region of £650 – £700. We are establishing a fine collection of items of rolling stock but we do need an engine. Would it be too much to ask ALL members to make the following New Year resolution – to make a donation towards the preservation of this 86 year-old locomotive? Unless something is done, by this time next year it will be in the breaker’s yard.
Finally, I would like to mention the Midland Royal Saloon. This vehicle has arrived at the depot through the kind generosity of one member who loaned the balance required (£240) to complete its purchase. This is enthusiasm at its greatest!
F.J.Harvey, Midlands Area Treasurer
The LRPS are planning to open another depot at Luton under the charge of a very keen member, Mr. John Payn.
L44 a London Transport Met. Tank has been acquired and is awaiting delivery to the Bishops Stortford Depot. Another appeal has been launched for a Beattie 2-4-0 Well Tank, 30585 – £750 will be needed for its purchase, £250 has already been raised.I love this photo, but where I got it from I haven’t a clue. It is marked 30585 – Helland. Can anyone tell me if this is Helland in Cornwall? At our Spring Gala in 2004 at Chasewater we had a visit from her sister engine, 30587.Photo byM. Denholm. The loco suited the Chasewater Railway very well!
Manchester, Sheffield & Lincolnshire carriage
Working party members are contributing to the cost of moving this vehicle from Yorkshire to the Midlands. A total of some £18 has now been contributed, this fund has also been contributed to by two London RPS members. We are most grateful to all these members.
Approximately £7 has been collected to date, a very poor effort. Please! Please! Send donations to the Hon. Treasurer to help secure the future of this fine loco.
Midland Crane and GWR Signal Frame.
Arrangements are at present being made for the collection of the Midland Railway Crane which is at Repton and the GWR signal lever frame from Llanfair. Both these items we hope to have at our depot for Open Day.One of the items that has stayed with us – rebuilt by Jim Twigge and Tom Mitchell.
A Day Out
Our very agile Hon. Sec. Dave Ives, Frank Harvey and Mike Lewis took a trip down to Wolverton Carriage Works on Saturday, February 15th to collect the bits and pieces that were missing from the Royal Saloon.
We gather, from a somewhat loaded Hon. Sec’s, car that they had a very good day all round. Among the small relics acquired were a uniform, carpets, pictures from coach compartments, a Midland Railway Bible in very good condition (which has sadly gone missing over the years) to name but a few, down to a few coat hooks.
A trip was made to a few stations, one being Turvey where a few more relics were added to the collection. As they sped back to Hednesford, the three gentlemen were no doubt very pleased with their days work for the Society.
Mr. Ives says that at Wolverton they are burning two or three coaches a week. If other departments of BR are working as fast as this there will be nothing left for us to preserve. So we must work very fast indeed to save what we can before Dr. Beeching has his final clear up or we will wake up one day and find the railways ‘modernised’.
Midland Royal Saloon
This vehicle is now safely stabled at our own siding at Hednesford. Thanks mainly to a wonderfully generous offer of a member, who has provided an interest-free loan. We still have a further £270 to pay off this vehicle, donations will be gratefully acknowledged by the Hon. Treasurer.
East Midlands District News
The activities in the East Midlands District have been dormant for the last few months. A period of hibernation for those in the south of the region. Future activities for the Northamptonshire members include: Excursions and Social Evenings. It is hoped that a small party will travel to Holyhead and North Wales reviewing the branch lines en route sometime in March, whilst another party will visit Swindon and Gloucester.
With the opening of the London District Depot at Luton, it is hoped again that members from this area will be able to visit on Sundays to help with the practical work.
Members in Lincolnshire and East Anglia are invited to contact Mr. M. N. Gubbins for details of activities in the two areas, as it is hoped that the East Midlands will cover this area of the country also.
With the Spring and Summer months approaching we hope that all members in all regions will continue their vital work on various photographic surveys, as this is one of the most interesting and inexpensive works that can assist the RPS.
Finally a note to lapsed members. Please renew your membership as your Guinea could save something from the dreaded ‘Beeching Axe’.
John M. Harvey. (East Midlands District Organiser).